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Are You Really Primal or Are You Just Grain Free?
Holidays in the Paleo community. Ah, isn’t it a relief? We can still eat all the same stuff everyone else eats with just a few tweaks and substitutes. Record scratch. What? Are you serious? You really think this stuff is Primal? I mean Primal. Primal.
I know this is not what you want to hear right in the middle of the holidays when you’re already addicted to the crap you said you’d indulge in just this once until it turned into four weeks of hell.
Sorry to be so cynical but I only wish there had been someone around to tell me this in all the years I was shuffling for alternatives, sabotaging my health, and never letting go the reins that tethered me to misery: food processing.
Way to alienate myself from the Paleo Community!
I just can’t help it. All the photos I’ve been seeing all over the Paleo food blogger’s websites are astounding! Do you honestly think a chocolate bar is Primal? Or coconut flour muffins, or pie made with agave not sugar, or almond butter cookies, chocolate coconut flour cake, nut bars, or even smoothies?
All this stuff looks good doesn’t it? But it isn’t what our ancestors ate! It isn’t what helped us evolve into these upright, big-brained singular creature that we are. What is all this talk about evolutionary nutrition anyway? How many people preaching it are actually doing it?
If the Primal diet isn’t providing the results you expected, then you might just consider the fact that you may not be as Primal as you thought you were. These foods AREN’T Primal:
Chocolate (I’m sure they had soy lecithin, vanilin, and cocoa butter in mass, isolate quantities 100,000 years ago)
Nut bars (Right, our Primal ancestors ate loads of squished, shelled nuts, mixed with piles of sticky dried fruit, and then baked in a stone oven? Nope.)
Smoothies (Umm, when were blenders invented? And how much fructose did our ancestors really dine on in a given sitting?)
Alternative flours (Flour is flour – nutrient depleted junk)
Pies (All of the above plus)
Substitutes substitutes substitutes. They don’t give results. Yeah, you’ll be healthier than you were before you started this – giving up the SAD does wonders – but your health won’t soar. Sure you can exercise your way to thinness but you won’t be free of sickness and modern ailments.
Why did it take me so long to recover from all of my problems? Because I wasn’t Primal. Because I thought that if all the components of some meal came from legal Primal foods, that somehow made a whole mixture of their extracted ingredients Primal. This just isn’t so.
Once you get the bars, breads, and pies all packed up into a yummy treat, I’m sorry, but it’s modern. Maybe we could rename all these “Paleo” adherents and simply call them “grain free.” At least that would be honest.
Being Primal takes a commitment to a real new life. It’s not about working the system. There is no “system” with loopholes for you to sneak through.
Primal is nature. Being Primal is being natural.
The real Primal lifestyle requires that we stop looking to food for fun. Food is sustenance. Food is healing. Food is nutrition. LIFE is fun!!!
The whole idea of getting together and using food as a source of entertainment is agriculture based. When all you eat is meat and vegetables, who cares about eating? It’s just not that big of a deal. We put food in our mouths like we put gas in a car. It’s just necessary. It’s not a party at the Shell station!
But when all you do is work your ass off all day in an agrarian society damn right you’re going to make a banquet of all the foods you’ve spent the year growing. And your world will revolve around preparing them, farming them, perfecting them, talking about them, thinking about them, sharing them, protecting them, and fighting for them.
We have been addicted to food for 10,000 years. Isn’t it clear that even the processed “Primal” foods are addicting? Truly being Primal is kicking that addiction in all it’s forms.
I understand that a lot of people use these foods as a way to transition out of the modern diet, but how long is that “transition” going to last? So, are you really Paleo or are you just Grain Free?
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149 Responses to “Are You Really Primal or Are You Just Grain Free?”
December 13, 2011 at 1:51 pm #
I’m pretty sure cavemen didn’t have computers either, but I’m not going to give mine up… and seems you aren’t either. Living a paleo or primal lifestyle isn’t about reinactment, you know that.
Cocoa butter and cocoa powder have antioxidents and heathy fats. Many “treat” ingredients even offer spices and ingredients (like coconut milk, ginger, etc) that have healing properties and are rich in vitamins and minerals. Surely, you’re not suggesting by saying “flour is flour” that a Tollhouse cookie is equal to a Paleo-ized chocolate chip cookie make with dark chocolate sans soy lechitin and almond flour and coconut oil?
Paleo/Primal isn’t a religion or singular interpretation for anyone, these are “treats” made Paleo(ish) or Paleo friendly by using ingredients that don’t make people sick and bring back memories of their youth. You may not need it, for quite a few of us we enjoy having social gatherins with non-evangelical-paleo-people where we can bring dessert and open a discusion about healtheir foods. If you don’t want to eat it, don’t.
But the blanket statements about what other people are or aren’t, the judgements, and the dramatic traffic grabbing headlines don’t bring us all together as a real food community attempting to bring about change for the entirety of society.
Peggy the Primal Parent
December 13, 2011 at 2:30 pm #
On the contrary. I am waiting for the day I get to give up my computer. But for now, I have to make a living so that I can buy myself some land and later live a simpler life.
When I said flour is flour I think it’s quite obvious that I’m not suggesting, “that a Tollhouse cookie is equal to a Paleo-ized chocolate chip cookie make with dark chocolate sans soy lechitin and almond flour and coconut oil?”
I was referring to the lack of nutrients in the four – not what is inside the whole cookie.
The suggestion of the article ultimately was, Stacy, that If the Primal diet isn’t providing the results you expected, then you might just consider the fact that you may not be as Primal as you thought you were. I think that’s a pretty valuable point. I’m sure there are a whole lot of people out there that are still suffering and just haven’t figured out why.
I know you’re upset because I linked to your page. It wasn’t meant to be a personal attack. These are the foods I’ve seen popping up lately and I made note of them. It is fine that you eat what you eat. I certainly don’t hate the community for eating treats. But for the many many people who haven’t found success in Paleo, they might just consider that the treats they consume on a regular basis are, as I said, sabotaging their health.
I don’t mean to be evangelical. But if results are what you’re looking for and coconut flour isn’t working for you, try another way.
I’m not trying to bring people together as a real food community. I am trying to ask questions about the ground we stand on. That is what is most important to me.
December 13, 2011 at 2:42 pm #
Eh, I’m not upset you linked to our site. It is what it is, we make treats with ingredients that are grain, dairy, legume and refined-sugar-free. That’s my definition of Paleo. Yours is different.
We love making paleo(ish) treats and seeing families cook together and kids be able to eat something similar to their friends for an occasional that doesn’t make them sick. There’s nothing more than I enjoy than getting e-mails from parents about how their kids finally feel normal because they have a grain or dairy allergy and finally have recipes their kids enjoy.
I wish I would’ve heard more inflection about “if you’re still not getting results or suffering” in the post – that didn’t come across to me at all. That, absolutely, would be appropriate and I myself have made similar posts regarding weight-loss and stress reduction and getting sugars of all kinds out of my personal diet.
However, asking the entire community to do that or telling them they’re simply rain-free if they don’t doesn’t unite us and offer society a chance to get on-board. I’m with Alex.
December 13, 2011 at 3:07 pm #
Got to agree with Stacy and Alex.
And BTW, I like going to the gym, and I’m not boring (a reference to another judgment in a previous post).
December 13, 2011 at 2:47 pm #
Now that’s a position I can get behind. I think alot of folks advocate adhering to Paleo principles 100% at first and then slowly reintroducing foods into the diet after that initial period, judging what effects each food have. Some people thrive on dairy, others gain weight and feel sluggish and have digestion issues.
While my post below (written before I saw this response) vehemently differs with your intial post, I do agree with what your saying here. Tough questions should be asked and, for some people, the answers might not be what you wish they were.
December 13, 2011 at 3:02 pm #
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December 21, 2011 at 10:09 am #
Land ownership isn’t Paleo either, really. It’s a farmer habit. You don’t need to own land if you’re not growing things on it.
I laugh every time I see a Paleo blogger brag about being libertarian. Sure, hunter-gatherers like their freedom, but the whole reason modern foragers are having so much trouble is so much land is being privatized and taken out of their hunting territories. When you can be arrested for trespassing because you’re pursuing an awesome hunt, that kind of puts a crimp in your nutrition.
I understand land ownership can also be a survival tactic in a world overrun with farmers, I really do. But the implications of following an ancestral forager lifestyle… I don’t think most Paleo eaters think all the way through them.
Peggy the Primal Parent
December 21, 2011 at 11:54 am #
I’d like to live in the mountains with a little land so that I can live the hell out of the city. I don’t eat plants so growing isn’t my intention. Hunting isn’t something I know how to do. Maybe I’ll learn someday, but until then I’d be pretty happy with some chickens and cows. I’m not looking for a complete return to Primal ways. But I am looking for something more peaceful and clean.
December 21, 2011 at 12:37 pm #
“I don’t eat plants so growing isn’t my intention”
Reminds me of J. Stanton: “Eat like a predator, not like prey”
Sidebar: I don’t think it’s really about Paleo re-enactment, but more about following a similar dietary composition made up mainly of the same types of foods. So steak, occasional fruit, occasional veggies, rare sugar are all in, and everything else is pretty much out. Crushed coconut meat, yes; coconut flour, probably not.
December 30, 2011 at 1:15 pm #
I’d recommend you go hunting — primal on many levels, and a great way to escape the confinement of urban life.
January 7, 2012 at 8:08 pm #
Huh. Cows and some chickens mean you need pasture. The average dairy cow won’t produce without some grain. Steers are a major pain in the ass. Neither are compatible with living in the mountains.
Chickens need some grain if you want eggs, and if you are in the mountains something: raccoons, coyotes, foxes, opossums, snakes….will eat your chickens and/or your eggs.
And butchering is annoying, tedious, messy, and—oh yeah—a pain in the ass. Blood from hell to breakfast, more offal than you ever thought possible, flies, yellowjackets and stink.
December 21, 2011 at 2:44 pm #
Peggy, we applaud your perspective, and your willingness to question whether something makes *sense* or not. Like we often say, we’re more concerned with health than history, and it’s a tough case to make that “Paleo” desserts are healthy, both physiologically AND psychologically. How mentally and emotionally “healthy” is it to mimic the old processed junk food and desserts you used to eat? Not very, in our opinion.
Concerning the idea of “bringing people together”: we think that open, honest discourse brings people together. We even think that disagreeing brings people together *when it is done respectfully*. We do not think that a laissez-faire attitude towards health brings people together – it simply leaves them on their own little island without a chance to engage, question, explain, self-assess, and compare. Question things, but most importantly, question yourself.
December 13, 2011 at 1:52 pm #
I love you Peggy! If you haven’t alienated any yet, I doubt you will 🙂 This is such a great post. As the community builds and gets mainstream the concepts are bound to get watered down too. It’s good to have people like you to remind everyone what’s what. At least, that’s what I think.
I remember the first time I tasted something baked with coconut flour. I’d been what you call “a primal saint” up until then. I felt like crap afterwards. I knew then it wasn’t for me.
What’s interesting to me is whether it’s easier to go “cold turkey” and then go back and feel how awful some foods make you feel (I JUST, just learned my final lesson with nuts) or whether it’s easier to transition with some of these other food products (I know, non-food products). Personally, I’m a rip-the-bandaid-off kinda girl.
December 13, 2011 at 1:58 pm #
LOVE this. Absofreakinglutely dead-on.
I only start feeling crappy again when I start fudging on being truly primal.
December 13, 2011 at 6:42 pm #
Jamie and Dara, I agree! Thank you Peggy for this post (and this site 🙂 ! – I am really going to re-evaluate the way I eat and live…it was a very timely post for me.
December 13, 2011 at 2:01 pm #
Just stumbled across this blog. I’m glad somebody said it. I could not agree with you more on this subject. Tapioca and Agave nectar are not hunter gatherer foods. I find it a bit irresponsible that so many paleo blogs (the primary reference for a lot of people) are promoting these even more processed versions of food and calling them paleo friendly.
I would just like people to call the food what it is. Junk food. Grain free junk food is still junk food.
December 13, 2011 at 2:01 pm #
I have a couple thoughts: if life is fun, and food is a necessary component of life, couldn’t/shouldn’t food be fun? I guess it seems like saying, “well, I have to work to earn a living, so I don’t need to enjoy my job.” I try to enjoy every bit of my day, because it’s all I have. Once I eschewed processed foods, cooking became a large part of my life, so making food taste good became fun. So, while I do not eat treats that often, I guess I need to be filed under “grain free.”
That being said, I do admire your primal-ness and I mostly think of my grain free status as just a stopping point on the way to primal. It takes time to adapt to these things (for me at least) and I see myself getting further and further from the tofurkey-eating vegetarian I used to be. I started my paleo life by eating meat, veggies, and lots of fruit, nuts, and paleo pancakes (and other grain free desserts). Now I eat bone broth, meat, fat, occasional offal, lots of veggies, and a grain free dessert every once in awhile. Who knows what will be my next stop on the way to primal?
Thanks for your thought-provoking blog.
Peggy the Primal Parent
December 13, 2011 at 3:51 pm #
That’s a good point Stephanie. Definitely, even eating just meats and veggies can be delightful so that’s not exactly the point. It’s the pursuit of fun in food that can, for some, lead to destructive eating.
December 13, 2011 at 4:07 pm #
I know… I see it both ways. I work in a functional medicine clinic, and for so many people on the SAD, lack of enjoyment for cooking and food preparation is what makes getting off processed foods so difficult. So, for that reason, I think food needs to be a fun part of life. But then there is the other side, where it becomes easy to shove your old, shitty ways of eating into a paleo disguise (to paraphrase the whole30 folks) and then go on to say paleo isn’t working for you.
December 13, 2011 at 6:48 pm #
Agreed Stephanie. That’s sort of my vested interest in this post. I think there are many people going Paleo with the help of these blogs and recipes. But then they don’t get the benefits and disparage the whole of Paleo. For me, I’m wondering why everyone is so mad here. We use names to define and identify things. Paleo means this. Look. You can walk miles everyday and do light stretching everyday. It’s wonderful for you! Good for you. But it’s not yoga, so don’t call it yoga.
December 13, 2011 at 2:07 pm #
I’ve been reading your posts for a while now and I appreciate your point of view but really? When did eating Primal or Paleo become a pursuit of the pretentious?
Kicking the addiction in all forms?
I don’t see any recipes on here for eating grubs and worms. When was the last time you went and hunted an animal, killed it, stripped its skin and ate its intestines?
Moving even slightly down the Primal road should be praised and not scorned.
Who cares if people don’t go all the way with it? There is no way humans can go back to being truly Primal, we have irreversibly changed the eco system and very little of nature is any longer natural. I don’t know about you but I personally live in a house and when I go out I walk on a pavement.
As Primal and Paleo people we have the chance to improve the health of some very sick people by educating them, we shouldn’t be wasting it by alienating those that try.
So, are you really Paleo or are you just pretentious?
December 13, 2011 at 3:33 pm #
🙂 Right on, Alex
Peggy the Primal Parent
December 13, 2011 at 3:47 pm #
It isn’t pretentious to dream of an ideal human nature. My god, I certainly know “Primal” for all it was, will never be again. But I’m a dreamer and I love to think of the way things might have been and who we might have been.
It also isn’t pretentious to suggest that paleo(ish) treats might not be working for some people. Maybe you’ve forgotten, since you’ve read a lot of my posts, that I struggled for many years to overcome my health challenges. And, what you don’t know, is that I get emails almost everyday from people who are struggling just as much.
My tone may have been pretentious – I have a way with that sometimes – but I don’t think my message was.
Let me just make it clear that I’m not looking down on anyone for what they eat, but my website attracts people that have a very difficult time regaining health. If they’re anything like me, eliminating modern foods, even the “Primal” ones might just help.
December 14, 2011 at 1:02 am #
Hmm.. are you really right, or just self-righteous?
December 21, 2011 at 10:12 am #
Paleo people had homes too. If those homes were tents and were taken down and moved around, so what? Would you tell a traditional Lakota from the 1800s that her tipi wasn’t a house? She’d laugh at you.
We do have “Primal” people in this world. They’re struggling to survive because the #$%^ing farmers took all their good hunting land. There is no “can’t go back to Primal”–it’s being done. Next!
December 13, 2011 at 2:30 pm #
I absolute love this post Peggy.
Flours are cheating… best if you just accept that there is not such thing as making apple pie with “paleo” friendly flours- that would just never match the real thing, sorry my friend but you’ll have to just not eat it. period. the premise is not making something paleo or try to find ways to make it paleo.
December 13, 2011 at 2:41 pm #
This is the distinction between Primal and Paleo. When Mark Sisson coined “Primal,” he specifically included foods that the Paleo community shuns that fit his guidelines for health. His philosophy was to use our evolutionary past as a guideline while also using the best innovations that modern science has to offer. While using almond flour or chocolate may not be Paleo, they are definitely Primal. That is an important distinction.
Besides, if you truly want to emulate our ancestors’ diet, then what you would be eating is largely raw organ meats, raw eggs, small rodent bones, handfuls of dirt, drinking blood, and mixing it up with the occasional insect. There is some evidence that our ancestors had a difficult time digesting raw vegetables and very little evidence that they ate kale, coconut oil, or most other Paleo staples. And, if you’re being this strict, then you should also limit yourself to the types of meat, fruits, and veggies (well, organs, bones, and bugs) that would be found in Africa. If we are trying to eat 100% the way we evolved to eat, then no foods from any other part of the world should enter our diets.
If someone is seeing health benefits while avoiding grains, Frankenstein oils, and other processed foods, while simultaneously getting outside and exercising in a more natural manner, who cares if they enjoy the occasional glass of wine or almond flour cookie? Especially if it keeps them from backtracking into a SAD diet.
Food is sustenance, yes, but it’s also enjoyment. Same goes for sex and exercise and bonds of community. You can certainly have all of these things without enjoying them, but why? You could only copulate for reproduction purposes and do exercises that you hate, but why do that when you have an alternative? You could sleep on a slab of stone like our ancestors and try to let that broken leg heal without modern medicine, but why? This, to me, is tantamount to monks in the Middle Ages wearing hair shirts and only eating porridge.
Some folks need to turn their diets into a Puritanical religion. That’s why veganism has adherents. But for the rest of us, I like to think we’re well adjusted enough to understand the difference. My blood work looks great, I feel great, my deadlift numbers are up, my sprint times down, and I enjoy the occasional food that would make you say I’m not Paleo. And you know what? i’m not. I’m Primal. There is a distinction. Being Primal is a lot more than being simply grain-free. Read up on http://www.marksdailyapple.com.
Peggy the Primal Parent
December 13, 2011 at 4:04 pm #
Actually “Primal” was started by Aajonus Vonderplanitz. He owns “The Primal Diet” and Mark Sisson can’t even say it on his website. Primal is a cool word referring to our ancient past. There are just now beginning to be distinctions between dairy and not dairy and other little things distinguishing the words Primal and Paleo. I’m not talking about any of that anyway. If some food doesn’t appear to do you harm, then I wouldn’t worry about it – be it dairy, alcohol, or whatever. What I am talking about is eating great big mixtures of “Primal” ingredients and expecting great results. It’s not like I care if people eat those things – my daughter sometimes does, my boyfriend too, and on rare occasion I do too – but if a person isn’t getting results with those inclusions, then it’s time to re-think their method. I would guess that you do not, yourself, struggle with addiction. So many people do. And when they go Primal and try to eat these treats, their efforts or forfeit. That’s pretty sad since we’re all just trying to get healthy here.
Being Primal is about way more than being grain free! I could go on and on about Primal lifestyle and often do.
Brad C. Hodson
December 13, 2011 at 9:18 pm #
Thanks for the info about Aajonus Vonderplanitz. I had actually never heard the name, but I’m now reading some of his work. But even with Aajonus, he advocates raw vegetables (which research shows our ancestors probably rarely ate), vegetable juice (which we would have never made until the Neolithic era), and coconut cream (which, again, our Paleolithic ancestors wouldn’t have eaten).
Even when it comes to meat, our ancestors didn’t eat beef or chicken. We ate the organ meats left over when lions finished eating a baby elephant. We wouldn’t have had steaks, as those parts of the animals would have been the first that the larger prey we scavenged from consumed.
So the question, to me, then becomes: how strict do we go? Do we only ship ourselves elephant and gazelle organs from Kenya in an effort to be truly Paleo? Or do we use the past as a guideline, experimenting with our diets and ourselves with science as a guide. I think the latter is more reasonable.
Now, within that, comes the potential for abuse. Almond flour pancakes every morning would not be healthy (though they still wouldn’t equate to the diabetes causing white flour pancakes many people eat). But neither would a vat of coconut oil every morning.
I do suffer from food addictions. Horrible ones. Throughout my childhood, I was medicated with food. As an adult, I self medicated for many years. But that’s how I use these “borderline” foods. I work twelve hours a day, try to squeeze in a workout and social time, then come home to spend time with my family (who is equally as busy). This means we need convenient food more often than someone who works from home might. Rather than backslide and get the number 5 at Taco Bell, a little (Sisson-style) Primal cooking can do wonders.
Ultimately, what we need to remember is that we are part of a movement, whether we want to be or not. That movement is trying to cure diabetes and heart disease while improving the environment and economy by encouraging consumers to focus on locally produced vegetables and grass-fed meats and dairy. While we can disagree about the particulars, we are at the forefront of this shift in view. To paraphrase Krishnamurti: “You’re Paleo is not my Paleo.” 🙂
After all, there’s a thousand ways to skin a cat (which our ancestors did before slurping down said cat’s liver).
Peggy the Primal Parent
December 13, 2011 at 9:42 pm #
All so true Brad! You know, I have found that the more “Paleo” I go the better I feel. And that’s kind of the point I guess. I’m not importing elephant parts and then probably leaving them outside in the dirt to rot a bit here and there, but I realize that if I did I would feel great! Definitely some of what Aajonus does isn’t really “Primal” but part of why he does what he does is because he’s had to recover from terrible health. Much of what I do isn’t technically Primal either but there are some supplements I’ve had to take in order to bring my body back from disease. I don’t think most people can say that they’ve eaten rotten meat for healing purposes, eat raw meat every day, and make every attempt to be as Primal as possible living in the city. And I’m NOT AT ALL advocating that people be as extreme as I am. I’m ridiculous with my discipline and my ability to be hard core. For me it works well. It’s what makes me tick in a way. We don’t all need to do it the same. I really don’t think we all need to be living in the forest and killing our own food to be happy. Although I might argue that it may make us happiER. Hehehe. But who knows really. Anyway, I know that many people out there get carried away with Paleo substitutes and it hurts them and they’re not sure why.
December 21, 2011 at 9:57 am #
Interesting article, and I’ve only read the responses up until this point, but I wanted to comment. I “get” what you were trying to say in your post, and you made valid points, but with the back peddling/softening of your responses to what others like Brad are saying, I hope that you’re aware that your original words came across as judgmental/harsh/off-putting. If you truly want to help people who aren’t getting the results you think they could be getting by eating more purely paleo (and I think you do), then I’d suggest you try and state your case in a more graceful way next time.
Peggy the Primal Parent
December 21, 2011 at 11:03 am #
Graceful was clearly not my aim.
January 13, 2012 at 7:22 am #
I agree, the comments from Peggy are very very different to the original point. If it were me I would change the original article to be more in line with the comments she has made afterwards.
I don’t think the article accurately reflects what Peggy really wanted to say.
But perhaps it does and it was posted in such a way as to get as many responses and publicity as possible?
December 31, 2011 at 7:32 pm #
Aajonus also recommends wheat products for celiacs patients…
He should have never called his DIET primal, he doesn’t deserve it.
I do whole heartedly agree with you that chocolate and coffee, alternative flours are not primal/paleo.
Also wine isn’t primal.
I have never baked anything with alternative flours, EVER. I eat dark chocolate and I get ill and my face turns grey and I have to recover from whatever it is for days…it’s toxic.
I do however LOVE whole coconuts 🙂
December 13, 2011 at 8:05 pm #
Primal simply means first, original. Mark talks about evolution dozens of times on his site, books, etc. He added blueprint and called it his. Thats his “brand” if you will.
Primal = Paleo
So, if you’re primal, you’re paleo. There is no one way to live this lifestyle. I understand where Peggy is coming from. Thousands are failing at this lifestyle. One main reason is that they may not be strict enough. Nuts can be almost as bad, if not worse then non gluten grains.
Peggy the Primal Parent
December 13, 2011 at 9:45 pm #
Hey Todd. I’m glad you could see that I wasn’t meaning to hurt you personally by mentioning smoothies! I respect what you do and what all of the Paleo bloggers are doing. Every one of us is changing lives in our own way.
They don’t call it link love for nuthin!
December 21, 2011 at 10:14 am #
There are “Paleolithic” people all over the world, so by definition they wouldn’t be eating African food. It’s a myth that the Paleolithic era ended several thousand years ago. For thousands of people all over the world, it never ended.
Coconuts certainly would be Paleo or Primal for people living in that area of the world. Sorry.
January 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm #
I don’t think anyone suggested coconuts weren’t Paleo or Primal? Simply coconut flour? And any other flour for that matter.
December 13, 2011 at 3:03 pm #
I am going to enjoy my life and live it as healthy as possible….I have two young kids and a husband who made this change with me and I refuse to let them suffer through all the kids eating cookies or cupcakes in school and them left feeling like freaks. Do you hunt your own meat and spear it to death? Doubt it….Do you cook that meat? I’m sure you do….Do you cook that meat on a stove? Pretty sure I know the answer to that as well. Do you cook that food in toxic cookware (ie..nonstick and even stainless steele..yep, stainless steele leaches nickel which is highly toxic)…I bet you do. So are you really telling me that you are going to look down on people who try to make this lifestyle something that isn’t rediculously overwhelming? Should people make paleo cookies every day? NO…Should they do it once a week? NO…But every once in a while…ABSOLUTELY. I make almond flour. Are you really trying to tell me that by grinding the almonds down that they all of a sudden become unhealthy? REDICULOUS. I get that you want to show people that it is a dangerous road to do it all the time. But you kinda come across like the paleo police….don’t judge people that are TRYING to be as healthy as they can
Peggy the Primal Parent
December 13, 2011 at 4:10 pm #
Trish, I’m not judging anybody. I’m just hoping that people who need to ask themselves these questions will ask them. There are so many brilliantly healthy people out there who are fine with occasional Primal treats. And there are others who are not. This post is for them.
December 13, 2011 at 3:03 pm #
I agree with this so much. When I first went paleo I was making cakes all the time, I had just replaced my gf flous with almond flour, and I was using a ton of honey. Then I realised that I was cheating myself, especially since I was not buying beef since it was “too expensive.” Once I gave up ba…