People hate me – on the internet that is.
I discovered this last week. They say I’m stupid, sanctimonious, a bitch, and lots of other things. They’re shocked and afraid that I eat raw meat, think I’m trying to push it on everyone else, and surmise that I use it as a cure all… or were they just being sarcastic?
I don’t know and I don’t care.
Drama is not my cup of tea (or plate of raw meat if you will), nor is gossip, neither fighting. There are wars in the Paleo community all the time. Usually I don’t even know they’re taking place and, if I do, I steer clear. I’ve got other things to do.
So, I didn’t actually read the entries. I told Julian (my partner) about the mass amount of hits this forum was generating and he read the posts. He said it looks like a pathetic forum with a bunch of pathetically bored and stupid people. Here is the forum where people come to rip on me. You already know about the troll in my last post. I’m guessing she hopped over from there.
What’s really stupid about hating an internet personality is that the internet is just a big chimera to begin with. I am likely not at all who you think I am.
That’s the thing about blogs; they define you in a particular moment. One moment, I may be in a hurry and my writing sucks. The next moment I am fed up with all the parents I see feeding their kids crap and sound high and mighty. Another I am tired and crabby and seem to be a huge bitch. On the internet these moods linger, in real life they are ephemeral.
Anyway, I just thought you all might like to see what’s out there. Do you agree? Do you have anything to add?
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September 5, 2012 at 9:13 am
o.O Wut?
Not the most intelligent reply, but that’s honestly the best I could muster. I guess when you’re happy and healthy, there will always be people that loathe you for it.
September 5, 2012 at 9:23 am
If they’re talking about you – then you’ve succeeded. Well done!
September 5, 2012 at 2:54 pm
Exactly! When people begin hating on you randomly lIke this then it’s when you know you have arrived and are making difference. Some hated Elvis after all.
Congrats!
Kep living how you live peggy. Your an inspiration to us all!
September 5, 2012 at 9:47 am
Screw closed minded people! Sure sometimes I read your posts and think “weird!” but then I follow that thought immediately with “But how cool, tell me more!” You go girl for sharing your lifestyle, opinions, and personality – I really enjoy following your posts! “You don’t become great by being normal” – my Dad (who is not very normal, lol).
September 5, 2012 at 9:58 am
This is so sad. I don’t care if they think you are a little nutso for how you want to eat, but the name-calling is childish. They are obviously unhappy in their own lives (of which I am sure they will adamantly deny – but that’s their deal), so don’t worry about it. Unfortunately people think what you post on Facebook or on the Internet is more telling them what to do than providing info. That’s all the Internet was ever about.. putting INFO at our fingertips. I wish they would use that energy to fight some real causes, like the huge issue of sex slavery that everyone seems to think doesn’t exist. Sad, sad, sad.
September 5, 2012 at 10:15 am
Wow… that’s like, bizarro-land. Even if differences of opinion exist, who is that mean? Are we 12 years old? Don’t let it get to you – people are insecure. The most important thing is that you continue to be as objective in all things as possible, because – in my mind – that is one of the only big reasons people should be hating on anybody.
September 5, 2012 at 3:00 pm
It is the internet… they could actually be twelve for all we know.
We can hope. Would give the hope they’ll grow up.
September 5, 2012 at 10:00 am
That is seriously one of the saddest things I have ever read. People who get together and shit-talk about others… it’s just despicable. Is your life really so horrible that you have to try and run everyone else down? OK… so you don’t agree with every thing this woman says or does? That’s completely fine. That’s your opinion. Why the HELL do you feel the need to say such horrible things? Wow. Just… wow.
September 5, 2012 at 10:00 am
there are a lot of insecure people out there, it seems…I don’t necessarily agree with absolutely everything I read on this blog, but I come back almost daily to read it because I find it interesting and challenging – I feel sorry for these people who obviously feel so threatened by a challenge to their beliefs, and can’t open their minds to consider another possibility…
September 5, 2012 at 10:01 am
It is when people stop talking about you that you should then be concerned. “Write” on sister!
September 5, 2012 at 10:03 am
I think you’re awesome and amazing and admirable. Whatever, trolls. If there’s something that I’m constantly trying to remind myself these days with my 4-course teaching load, it’s that I can’t please everyone. And I shouldn’t try. Let ‘em work it out amongst themselves. I love raw meat too and I don’t know if I ever would have thought to try it if it hadn’t been for reading your post!
September 5, 2012 at 10:16 am
Congratulations…that’s all I have to say. Like Didi said, they are talking about you and linking to your blog, so you won! I do not even think this post was necessary. In fact, by acknowledging your detractors, you justify them.
Anyway, keep up the good work and keep sharing with those of us that care. Even if sometimes you are tired and crabby!
September 5, 2012 at 10:16 am
I loved this post as much as I love all of your other posts. Keep writing, keep eating meats, keep the honesty, and don’t look back.
September 5, 2012 at 10:20 am
I agree with several other commenters, wtf? First of all, it does show you’ve got your name on the map. But secondly, WTF? I hope you are able to keep your center and let the hits fly past.
September 5, 2012 at 10:28 am
Accusing harsh people of jealousy always sounds trite, but in this case, I really do believe it. Bitching about how Evelyn was a happy baby and ‘hoping your next one is a holy terror’; bitching about how you must think you’re better than any other mother for not gaining a ton of pregnancy weight, etc. It doesn’t look good on them. Plus, in this emoticon-driven internet communication, your lack of smiley faces in posts seriously can disturb people [sarcasm?]. You get to the point, sometimes bluntly, and without apology. And heaven forbid people hear a differing opinion without accommodation to their sensitivities. Good grief. You do what works for you, and let everyone else pound sand.
September 5, 2012 at 10:10 pm
“emoticon-driven Internet communication” lol! Isn’t that the truth. If I added one of these
after everything unusual or difficult I had to say, I wouldn’t hurt anybody’s feelings. But I am not trying to “accommodate their sensitivities” just trying to give my experience. Tip toeing over every possible feeling you might hurt sounds pretty time consuming anyway, and I don’t have a whole lot of time.
September 5, 2012 at 10:34 am
These sad little devils know nothing of kindness, tolerance, patience, forgiveness… nor do they have an inkling about how to behave like a human being for that matter. Sheer curiosity at neanderthal behaviour drove me to scan their comments (or ravings and ramblings, rather) and whenever I witness such abhorrent behaviour, a little piece inside of me gives up on humanity, for if we still have to witness and endure this breed of contempt expressed toward others who are trying to better themselves, then we have a long, long, LOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG way to go.
Anyway, good on you for sticking to your guns and please try not to let these d*ckheads get you down nor impede you. Just STAMPEDE over them instead, haha! THEY are the true neanderthals after all
xxx
September 5, 2012 at 10:12 pm
I think you and all the commenters here are doing a good job stampeding over them!
September 5, 2012 at 10:47 am
I’m not even going over to read that. If they don’t agree with what you have to say, they don’t have to read! I for one really appreciate that you share your journey with us and that I can benefit and learn from your tips.
September 5, 2012 at 10:51 am
I for one, am glad that you write the way you do. If you weren’t passionate, why bother? That would be boring! There are a gazillion opinions on everything and there is no way that you can state an opinion without it conflicting with someone’s somewhere. There have been several times I read what you write and think “WTF ! or ?” , but I keep reading and learning. Sometimes by the end of the post you have me convinced, other times not, but it’s not really about ME. Your posts inspire debate and THINKING, which is so important. It’s not so much about who is right or wrong, we are both right and we are both wrong…and we can both learn from each other, even if it’s just a different perspective. It’s clear that you take the time to read and respond to people, and that you actually think about things, and that, in my book, is awesome! Thank you for making yourself vulnerable and sharing your thoughts and your passions!! And don’t let the negativity bring you down
September 5, 2012 at 3:11 pm
^^ This, pretty much.
You’ve got a very blunt tone, which can be intimidating to people not used to it. (Apparently I do the same thing, and I’m one of the least imposing people I can think of, outside text.)
I don’t always agree with you, and thank god I don’t have to. You make me think, and I appreciate that. What’s the point in reading something you agree with all the time?
And who goes to insults? That’s one of the worst fallacies, that proves your entire premise false. If your only proof is “they’re wrong because I don’t like them, because B***h!”, you’re the one with a flimsy argument.
But hey, as others have said, at least you know you’re famous. You’re not famous until someone starts a hate club about you.
September 5, 2012 at 10:19 pm
I am thankful that there are people who get what blogs are all about. They are not a long statement of facts or absolutes. They are merely sketches of ideas and experiences for people who like to think. Blogs are platforms for presentation and discussion of our journeys. Please disagree! That’s what makes it interesting. But man, why be a jerk about it…
September 5, 2012 at 10:52 am
Yep. You’re a freak. No doubt about it. You’re different than all those haters. You’re special and you don’t have to go around bashing people to make yourself feel important. You eat differently than most, and that is a good thing, because most Americans eat like crap and are so ignorant that their last original idea came the day before kindergarten started (if that recently). Keep up the good work thinking outside of the box. OBTW – love the header image of running barefoot next to your daughter.
September 5, 2012 at 10:21 pm
Awe thanks Chuck. I’ve been meaning to change it though since I was 4 or 5 months pregnant there.
September 5, 2012 at 10:52 am
Well…I started reading the blog because you are ridiculously hot. I keep reading it because I value the advice.
September 5, 2012 at 11:02 am
I am grateful for your posts about your lifestyle, especially that you eat raw meat! I do too! So do others. Those people putting you down in the mean comments probably wouldn’t speak to you face to face with any degree of courage and honesty. The comments are reflections of those who make them and their ignorance/suffering is revealed.
This post partum phase of your life may be a time to cocoon within the warm environment of home, baby, and loved ones, if I may say, as this is what I would like someone to say to me if I had just had a baby. Protect yourself from the BS on the ‘net! There are more important things in life.
September 5, 2012 at 10:23 pm
Wonderful advice Rihanna. The baby certainly doesn’t need any stress hormones in her breast milk!
September 5, 2012 at 11:04 am
I’m not usually a commenter, just a lurker.
But it’s that exact paleo cat fight that has tainted my opinion of the paleo community in general. Now I try to read the articles from bloggers I like, and skip the comments. Is it true for commenters too? Are they really that cruel and ignorant in real life? Funny how the internet gives people a chance to present themselves as “whomever they want to be” and they choose to be a lower life form.
I’m not going to go look at the nasty comments people made, I also have better things to do and refuse to let that trash dirty up my opinion of you. Congrats on your new baby…!
September 5, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Thanks Kim and smart move. The comments on blogs can just get out of hand. I prefer to skip them most of the time too.
September 5, 2012 at 11:06 am
Wow! I honestly don’t think your posts are that “out there!” Maybe different compared to what some people are used to, but come on – it’s not like you’re promoting doing drugs or something. I hope you don’t let it get to you! Good for you for being honest & putting yourself out there. I agree that the tone of any blog post will be determined by any number of things and can sometimes come across as harsh, but I don’t really see that with yours. You look great after baby by the way!
September 5, 2012 at 10:27 pm
Thanks Sara! Most of the top rated websites promote drugs. That’s a lot more “normal” than eating healthy food. Lol
September 5, 2012 at 11:07 am
This sounds so much like high school… Some people never grow up. You are different, cutting edge, and are so not a sheepeople. No I don’t agree with everthing you have to say, but it is always interesting and why I tune in. I’m a grownup and I can make my own way and decisions and don’t need a hoard of hidden bloggers to rant with. They just don’t know how to deal with a person bold enough to put it out there. I think ythey want you to shut up beacuse they can’t cope with the new and by their comments have difficulty with reading and comprehension.
September 5, 2012 at 11:14 am
“I want to beat her with a slab of beef and stab her in the eye with a raw pork chop.”
Really??? That one left me staring slack jawed at my computer screen for a solid minute. Misery loves company, I guess… or should I say mediocrity loves company? This is a great example of how people love to drag everyone down to their level. Rather than saying, “Wow, she has no c-section scar! How did she do it?”, the response is one of jealousy and disbelief veiled in sarcasm. All because people don’t like taking responsibility for the things that happen in their lives. If a scar isn’t inevitable, they’ve done something wrong and that’s uncomfortable. Rather than own their shortcomings, they lash out at the person who brought said shortcomings to light. Yay for immaturity and a lack of self-awareness!
…and if you’re “crazy”, so am I!
September 5, 2012 at 11:31 am
What’s this about a c-section scar? Like I said, I didn’t actually read the forum.
September 5, 2012 at 12:42 pm
They are just ranting about your comment that your scar is barely there and that you credit your diet in a big way for this. Your health and happiness makes them lose their minds. So much health and beauty freaks them out really. I started my primal journey and so far lost 88 pounds in 10 months and some friends are now worried. I was accused of going ani !!! Just goes to show. LOL I’m 6 feet tall and over 200 I still have lots to lose. People just freak when you are healthy and in control or on your way there.
Hey Peggy, How about some international raw meat postings. see my comment. Stay super natural you blinding beauty you.
September 5, 2012 at 3:55 pm
Peggy check this out. I found it on just a snap and doesn’t even begin to give a list of what people eat around the world world and this is just a drop in the ol’bucket. These are just beef, not fish, poultry, or insects. Let eat! Enjoy!!!
http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/2011/08/raw_beef_dishes_los_angeles.php
September 5, 2012 at 12:27 pm
Hey,I really don’t comment much, but just gotta say. If, it bothers them that much they need to move on already. I think its amazing that you don’t have a c-section scar!!! That you have very little weight to lose and that when you needed to you used medicine you did and stayed in control of how much and when. I think a day to know that there are haters our there is more than enough. It must feel like vandal tearing at your work. Please don’tet it get you down and why not stop answering snarky comments altogether. They are not worthy not because they disagree, but because their intent is to destroy, hurt, and deprive others of a great resource.
As for the raw meat thing… people have been eating raw meat dishes forever. My extended family is very international and it has been my experience that everyone has a raw meat dish or two. You don’t see much of it here in the U.S.A. beacuse of people like the haters goa bashing and the fatigue that comes along with dealing with narrow minded people make it easier not to offer it to outsiders. “Hey that would be a great post for you!!! raw meat dishes from around the world.” Think about it!!! YUM…. maybe team up with someone like Nom Nom and add your own twist.
Peggy congradulations on the baby and know that these haters are just an indication that you have arrived. I’m sure Mark has his share too. My advice is keep doing what you are doing casue it is working and you have helped me see things I otherwise would not have. Like Don King said it doesn’t matter what they say as long as they tune the F@#* in. You are saying something they can’t turn away from and boy is it hitting a nerve. The things they say LOL reminds me of a bad remake of mean girls. LOL…
September 5, 2012 at 1:41 pm
I like that idea Trina! Thanks for the idea. Raw meat dishes from around the world. How much of a freak am I now right? Since the beginning of time, all around the world.
Congratulation to you Trina for your success!
September 5, 2012 at 2:20 pm
We used to eat raw meat at an Ethiopian restaurant – kitfo I think? It was delicious, and I ate it while pregnant. Raw food from around the world is a great idea.
September 5, 2012 at 5:09 pm
Okay just another thought how about a raw beef dish a week that’d be 52 in a year. There are that many out htere and more you’d just have to find them and maybe adjust them some to keep them totally primal. and Naw raw meat eating doesn’t make you a freak in the rest of the world, just here in the U.S.A. Hey, Look at this there are a dozen or so here and that’s just the beef.
http://www.rawpaleodietforum.com/infonews-items/list-of-traditional-raw-meat-dishes-(w-pics)/
September 5, 2012 at 10:34 pm
Trina, why don’t you start up a new blog? Raw Meat Dish A Week. I’d read it!
September 18, 2012 at 9:59 am
Agree that it is ‘hitting a nerve’- I think this all comes down to an attachment to certain foods and people will do anything not to let them go. This means attacking people and calling them out for being cruel or judgmental instead of actually commenting on their position (because they couldn’t logically do that). It makes me sad this is happening but I think the fault lies far more with people choosing to get offended and freaking out about it than with the people saying “hey sugar makes you gain weight/messes with your insulin”.
September 5, 2012 at 11:27 am
Wow, I went to the forum. Really aggressive language. Seriously, what’s the point…I agree with Julian, they sound bored and uneducated– even in a street smart kind of way. I guess haters gonna hate.
Both your birth stories break the bounds of what we think is normal and what most of us blindly accept.
As far as raw meat goes– sushi, carpaccio, tartare. It’s not a big deal. According to Aajonus Vaonderplanitz it cured him of a gazillion diseases.
And parasites? Step into the middle of uninterrupted nature and you’ll find critters that are thriving while infected with parasites. Sure, some cause disease, but a lot of bugs we evolved with us. Meaning, our immune system needs them to function. For example, helminth therapy which is still under serious review in light of its ability to alleviate things like autism and autoimmunity.
And oh, bacteria <3 For every one cell of the human body, there are at least 10 bacterial cells. We are literally a walking cloud of bacteria. Again, it's a case of co-evolution and synergy.
As a new mom, I appreciate what you share! Thank you!!!
September 5, 2012 at 11:42 am
You are an amazing woman just sharing her story and experiences. I can’t say anything better than what other people have already commented above. It’s sad and a disgrace that people that negative and cruel exist. Honestly, they have way too much time on their hands if all they do is sit and nosh about how they hate you because they’re jealous insecure people. People will be outrageously rude and inconsiderate from the safety of their little computer keyboard. I dare any one of those people to confront you to your face. Way to live above it. It’s just sad that these people exist. Keep writing and being honest because let’s face it, the majority of America isn’t.
September 5, 2012 at 11:59 am
I can’t even begin to count how much I learned from your blog and what you share, Peggy!
You ROCK and, well, it is hard to do without being a bit “out there.” I don’t learn much from mediocre folks so I don’t read many blogs (I don’t have that much time, really, so Mark’s Daily Apple and yours is what I make time for). It is fine to be mainstream but not much to share with others from that perspective. However, it is NOT fine to be mainstream or mediocre and hate/ bash others for standing out and expressing their point of view.
And, on a different note, who knows, maybe the haters just need to change their diet to feel better, you know? Maybe they are really hating being “them” and that is why they are bashing you. Not really trying to make fun of anyone, I was chronically depressed (but no, not bashing or hating, frankly, did not even have the energy:-)) until I got of gluten a few years ago. And, who knows, maybe the people bashing you now will actually learn a ton from you in the end. Either way, you ROCK and you make a difference in people’s lives. Really.
September 5, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Peggy-
I just thought since so many people are hating on you on that ridiculous forum, I would show you some love.
I am a 17 year old girl and I’ve been living strictly paleo for a couple years now. It is sometimes very difficult to live this alternative way at my age because of how peers react and how I have become “weird” among my cheer team, classmates, etc. I try and keep my head up because I know someday when they are all dying of diabetes and obesity and other modern diseases, I will be thriving on my grass-fed beef and pastured eggs healthy as can be! I find your blog posts so inspiring and enlightening, and I really enjoy learning more about this lifestyle from your experiences. My entire family reads your blog as well and we all love you and think you should be president
hahaha
I wish you and your beautiful family well and can’t thank you enough!
xoxo,
Blanca from CA
September 5, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Lol! Thanks to you and your family! I absolutely love to hear of youth taking control of their health. For most of us, we have get all messed up first and then reverse it with diet. You are preventing so much illness! Go Blanca!
September 5, 2012 at 12:46 pm
These ‘people’ don’t know or understand your choices because they apparently have no idea what a paleo lifestyle is or means. that same shit happens with attachment parents, or anyone else not considered mainstream.
I am so tired of all the bitching and war-declaring and tearing down going on in the paleo community (and beyond). Why can’t everyone get the fuck over differing opinions? Do what you do. If someone doesn’t like it, it’s up to them to keep their fucking mouths shut because lucky for them, they can choose to do it all differently. ‘Weh Weh Weh let’s all bitch and moan because someone’s living their life in a way that is offensive to me and clearly they should be doing what makes ME comfortable.’ bullshit.
September 5, 2012 at 1:10 pm
“i’ve got other things to do”
DITTO!
Love your blog, and I appreciate your introspection
September 5, 2012 at 1:43 pm
Couple of thoughts on the haters. First, they are threatened by ideas not familiar to them. Some people would respond with curiosity, others by slapping down the messenger. Secondly, maybe they are medical industry shills. People eating the strange diet similar to yours are healing from all sorts of intractable diseases, drastically reducing their consumption of Pharma/medical toxins and cutting into industry’s bottom line. Things are changing pretty fast in the Medical Industrial Complex. My bet is that the losers are very unhappy about that.
September 5, 2012 at 2:12 pm
Hmm. Totally not going over there to check out the completely unnecessary bashing. For my part I’m pretty grateful that you’re so honest and brave in putting your health journey out there (and that it worked! You’re happy, healthy and so are your kids). Honestly I’m just happy for you and happy that your level of health is possible. For unknown reasons, people get really angry about food choices that are different. Why is that? It comes up sometimes in my own family, usually because they’re unhappy about their current level of poor health. My mom was really angry that I’m not feeding anything with a hint of wheat or corn syrup in it to my kids, but then started on a low-carb Atkins-like diet yesterday. On an unrelated note, quinoa cooked in bone broth seems to make paleo eating work for me. I’ve still got a little blt of bloating (mild but there) but that’s probably the coffee with cream I haven’t yet given up. I’m on day 8 and feeling mellow, thin and pretty happy. Same with the kiddos. I credit you with being the inspiration for real, true health. So thanks again!
September 5, 2012 at 2:15 pm
There really are some obnoxious gimps out there. If they don’t like reading what you write why do they keep coming back for more? Keep plugging on Peggy, some of us do enjoy your wrting
September 5, 2012 at 2:47 pm
How can people be so utterly devoid of curiousity? On the one hand, everything they find different about your blog they choose to laugh about like a bunch of highschool girls instead of exploring the new information it presents them. On the other hand, why are they even wasting time reading and commenting (and participating in an ongoing manner in a forum) about things they hate?
I find there’s not enough time in the day to do all the things I love, and read about everything that interests me. I can’t imagine wasting time on something so pointless, not to mention aggravating for the self. Of course I come across blogs/people/ideas I genuinely dislike. Guess what, I read for a couple minutes and then I shut it down, because I have many, much better things to do!
These people actually *choose* to make themselves as aggravated as possible, instead of doing something that makes them or others happy, comforted, fulfilled, joyful, mirthful, nourished, relaxed. What a lame way to live!
September 5, 2012 at 10:45 pm
Alexandra, definitely what they are doing is aggravating them. Hating is painful for the hater. We should all be pitying them, not me.
September 5, 2012 at 3:27 pm
1. People need to find better things to do. 2. The beauty of blogging and the internet is that it’s open to everyone and everyone can say what they want. If you don’t like it, you don’t have to look at it. And if you like it, you can find friends and a community.
Sorry to hear that people are being mean and spiteful. Hope those people realize they should spend their time contributing to society rather than hating on free speech.
Keep on blogging.
September 5, 2012 at 4:18 pm
Regardless of the community, the anonymity of the internet brings out the worst in some people. Unfortunately they are also the ones most likely to bother commenting.
For what it’s worth, I have been following your blog for months and even though I may never try raw meat or have a baby, I enjoying reading about your experiences and opinions. Most likely the majority of your readers fall into the same camp, we just don’t always feel the need to post comments.
Enjoy your new baby, focus on yourself and family and read only the parts of the internet worth reading. I know it’s hard to forget or ignore the ugly (especially when they bring it to you) but they are not worth letting it get to you.
September 5, 2012 at 4:43 pm
I really like your blog Peggy! Almost every post challenges me! Keep up the good work!
September 5, 2012 at 5:50 pm
I totally dig your blog, Peggy. And I can’t wait for your book. I’m ordering it as soon as it’s available. Thanks for sharing your insights on healthy living.
September 5, 2012 at 7:36 pm
It isn’t even a diet thing, it’s a cultural reaction. Raw beef is quite commonly eaten in Europe, and in Japan I have eaten raw horse meat and raw whale. While it’s not to my taste, I cannot see why people who eat cooked meat would have such a visceral reaction to a very reasonable blog post.
September 5, 2012 at 10:47 pm
Horse meat? Wow! Seems counter productive to eat such a useful animal. But each culture to its own!
September 6, 2012 at 2:32 am
So says the Hindu about cows
September 5, 2012 at 9:29 pm
I’m not even going to read that forum. You’ve made a huge positive influence on my life and that is all I care about. I’m really glad your blog is here for us to learn from. Mazel tov on the baby btw!
September 5, 2012 at 9:33 pm
Peggy,
Never discount the existence of cognitive infiltrator’s.
Commenters, bloggers and forum members who are PAID to wage ideological, propaganda-based warfare.
Note J. Stanton’s point….
<blockquoteIt’s clear that it’s far more profitable to sell us processed grain products than meat, eggs, and vegetables…which leaves a lot of money available to spend on persuading us to buy them. Are you starting to understand why grains are encased in colorful packaging, pushed on us as “heart-healthy” by the government, and advertised continually in all forms of media?
And when we purchase grass-fed beef directly from the rancher, eggs from the farmer, and produce from the grower, we are bypassing the entire monumentally profitable system of industrial agriculture—the railroads, grain elevators, antibiotics, growth hormones, plows, combines, chemical fertilizers (the Haber process, by which ammonium nitrate fertilizer is made, uses 3-5% of world natural gas production!), processors, inspectors, fortifiers, manufacturers, distributors, and advertisers that profit so handsomely by turning cheap grains into expensive food-like substances?
Preach it, Brother Stanton!
Never mind the trolls, anonymous commentary or folks who seek to divert your readers from the truth.
Keep you head up and keep on doing what works for YOU and your Child!
Congratulations on your newborn!
Aloha no,
Keoni Galt
September 5, 2012 at 9:54 pm
Keoni, you are always a breath of fresh air. You are the sanity in the craziness that surrounds us. Thanks for coming by and leaving some kind and wise words.
If these fools weren’t planted eventually I will see them. We all will.
September 5, 2012 at 10:09 pm
It was not worth my time or yours to go read the forum.
Trolls will be trolls, keep up the good work.
September 6, 2012 at 3:43 am
Hey Peggy, I don’t read forums or things which waste my time so I had no idea that there was all this negativity out there. In never fails to amaze me how unsupportive women can be to other women (I am guessing regarding the forum). I just wonder why… jealousy perhaps?
Anyway, I have never commented on anything before but have been reading about your wonderful journey for about a year now. I’m lucky to live in London, UK and have wide access to excellent meat/eggs sources in addition to locally grown produce. I’m slowly persuading others around me how good you can feel simply because I am now happy, strong and healthy. Basically keep on being you because you really help people like me. Congratulations on your beautiful daughter. x
September 6, 2012 at 8:16 am
Thank you for commenting, Daisy! I had no idea this kind of stuff was out there either. I’ve never been a web surfer, just use it to get a job done. It was pretty shocking to me too. In fact, I had never looked at a comment board prior to starting this blog. The internet is a strange world I am finding. There is a lot of value and there is a whole lot of unwarranted judgment. I don’t much like it. I’m glad you’ve been enjoying the blog. London is a great city! I lived there for a short while about 16 years ago.
September 6, 2012 at 6:24 am
haha, that forum is crazy!! Don’t even bother reading comments from somebody that is obviously ill mannered and not intelligent enough to give any smarter comment than this : “I want to beat her with a slab of beef and stab her in the eye with a raw pork chop” omg…Nobody normal could write this.
September 6, 2012 at 7:17 am
I like pork chops
September 6, 2012 at 8:59 am
So, I’m one of the people who came here from the other forum. I can honestly say that while I think eating raw meat is weird (I don’t even like eating sushi), it’s the other claims that I’ve personally found outrageous. Such as the fact that your daughters temperament had anything to do with your diet. Certainly there are instances where eliminating certain foods from your diet can help your child (like foods that increase gas production or dairy if your child has a sensitivity to it), however I find it incredulous that your daughter’s laid back attitude was a direct consequence of your diet. FWIW, my daughter is exactly the same way & I eat a standard non paleo/non primal diet. Of course, I’m also not going to curse or make fun of you for having an easy baby!
Not having a CS scar could be diet – or you could just have good healing genes or had a very talented surgeon! It also helps that you didn’t gain much weight during your pregnancy. I did (regrettably) and have a very small scar remaining – I credit the skill of the surgeon in my situation.
September 6, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Hi Emily. You are entitled to your belief that diet plays such a big roll in our health and disposition. Most people are right with you on that. I don’t agree though. What’s the big deal?
September 6, 2012 at 9:11 am
I’ve never posted before but I just HAVE to on this one! I couldn’t get through all the HATE on that website. It saddens me to see these moms/dads etc. are filled with such hate for someone they never met and for a lifestyle choice that someone else makes. How does this impact their lives? Do they just meet online to hate and make fun of others? Seems like some very insecure people may belong to that forum. What a circle of negativity!
I don’t “know” the Primal Parent or her family – nor do I know the forum members…but I personally feel that the HATERS could really benefit from a primal lifestyle – back to basics people!
Be smart – use the internet as a tool to gain knowledge and information – not to share anger and hate. Life is too short and this type of forum is so hurtful, negative and disappointing!
Keep fighting the good fight Primal Parent! You definitely have my support and the support of many – many others!
September 6, 2012 at 11:30 am
Do you eat bacon raw? Curious.
September 6, 2012 at 6:12 pm
Not my cup of tea really. I used to love it when I was a kid though… and I’d get in big trouble for stealing pieces off the counter in the morning!
September 7, 2012 at 4:34 am
Peggy I was listening to this today and you popped into my head. If nothing else, the piano music will make you forget all that b.s.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbeHq1CLqJ8
September 7, 2012 at 12:33 pm
I absolutely love that song! I like playing it at the piano too.
September 7, 2012 at 2:42 pm
Maybe they just got lost on their way to the RNC
September 7, 2012 at 5:44 pm
You shouldn’t bother writing about them, every mind is so complex in it’s own frame of reference… The good thing is that there are lots of people reading your blog, that’s what is important.
“Do not throw your pearls to pigs”
Keep writing about what your blog is about, I found it pretty interesting
September 8, 2012 at 4:39 am
Oh man, I love Regina. I’d love to hear it played live. I always marvel that people can play the piano – it’s such a mystery to me. When I was working at a nursing home, I figured out how to play You Are My Sunshine, because the residents loved it when I would sing that to them. Honestly though, it’s like some mystery to me that I may never know. I love it nonetheless. I’m laughing now thinking what you would make of my piano work. Hahahaha. Too funny.
September 8, 2012 at 11:20 am
I doubt I would think anything bad about your piano playing. I may be a sanctimonious, high and mighty, arrogant bitch when it comes to nutrition
but not when it comes to music. My piano playin is uneducated, weird, simple, and sometimes just plain boring. But I really enjoy doing it.
Chances are I would hear your song and envy your style or ear or whatever. I’m like that with music. EVERYONE is a better musician than me. I’m fine with it though. At this point in my life anyway!
September 10, 2012 at 1:23 pm
I’ve heard your music lady. I like some of your songs. My music is my voice. I can sing and I only believe it to be so because that’s what everyone’s said for the last twenty years. Well, I’m finally starting to believe them. I love to sing anyways, it’s always such a release of something much bigger than me trying to get out. When I think about being able to play the guitar or the piano as I did it – it makes me shudder with the mere thought of it. We’re all a little jealous of Regina though.
September 8, 2012 at 10:53 am
Hi Peggy, I know you won’t let yourself get down because people are talking trash about you. I know that finding that stuff out always leads to a quick adrenaline hit, and I feel for you. But honestly, and I hope this won’t offend you, I actually feel sorrier for the people on that board. To say such hurtful things about another person diminishes the speaker – I feel like you kill a little portion of your soul every time you do such things. The internet seems such an anonymous venue that people will type things they wouldn’t say in person, but the effect on the self is the same. I see this with my 8th grade students, they say the same hurtful stuff over the electronic media (and in the stupid notes they pass in class) and I always worry so much about the person they will become if they are not redirected. I think we have an answer now, adults (we assume) who feel the need to cut others down with vicious language.
Well, we will all do our best to ignore them, and I hope you will keep posting as you did before. Your frank and honest nature is one of the things that keeps you on my most-read list, I enjoy it so much more than the polished and personality-lacking articles on some other blogs. I feel like you provide a combination of valuable information and life experience which is always great. I also feel like we do get snapshots of your personality, all aspects of it, which is why I enjoy commenting on your blog even though I really don’t anywhere else. So thanks, keep your head up and keep the good stuff coming!
September 8, 2012 at 11:12 am
That wasn’t offensive at all. It’s so true. A very old friend of my dad’s commented the same to me the other day. Hate and bitterness are so much more painful for the doer than for the receiver. Yes it gave me a shot of adrenaline and made me pensive for the evening, as I’m finding these things often do, but that is nothing compared to what constant agitation those who are hateful feel.
I was a very very different person before I my health started to change and I worked for years to improve my nutrition and heal my body and mind. My mind was as unhealthy as my body. You probably know that I was depressed but I was also angry. I couldn’t really help it. It seems just to have been the way my body reacted to everything bad that wa happening in my body.
Anyway, being finally liberate from that after about 15 years of it was more valuable than all of the physical ailments I recovered from.
Bitterness is destructive. I feel sorry for anyone living in that but also for people so closed minded that they can’t see past their own experiences. This is true for all of us. I know for myself that if I had been closed to some of the “weirdness” I’ve tried I wouldn’t have ever climbed out of my hole. The same concept is true in all aspects of life. Creativity is necessary for problem solving and creativity requires some open mindedness.
Ok so now I’m rambling.
thanks for commenting Laura (and everyone). It means a lot to me in this safe veiled world of the Internet.
September 8, 2012 at 1:50 pm
I know what you mean Peggy. I used to be angry and hateful like those commenters before I fixed my emotional/psychological (and physical) state through nutrition. Even now, if I let my diet slip for a while I start to feel the depression and anger casting its shadow again. But I know how to stop it in its tracks now.
Every time I see a person suffering from intense negativity like that I wonder, what if they fixed their diet?
September 8, 2012 at 4:01 pm
I wonder the same thing all the time. Just knowing how extreme was the change that happened to me. I wonder, what would happen if the whole world had access to nutrients, ditched the sugar, exercised, quit eating inflammatory foods, etc.
I think what makes some people so offended by my claims is one that I can sometimes write a bit more absolute than maybe I should and two that they might even put a lot of work into eating “well” but don’t know is that grains can prevent absorption of nutrients, food coloring can seriously affect mood, soil is depleted sabotaging even our best efforts, prescription meds deplete certain nutrients, hfcs is terrible for the liver, bowel, and blood sugar. And, as you know, so many more little unsuspecting causes of mood issues and body ailments.
It is beyond sad that the media and our peers and corporations push non-food so much.
I am not so much personally offended by what people say about me as I am just sad that our food supply is so tainted and our connection to the land and tradition almost lost.
September 8, 2012 at 5:09 pm
It is indeed very sad how far our society has strayed from the kind of food supply and the kind of attitudes toward food that are necessary for human physical and mental health (and hey, domesticated animal health too!). Also sad to see it manifested in those close to you, people who respect your intelligence and honesty, yet don’t really believe the extent to which you tell them proper nutrition has changed you.
I just met up with two friends I hadn’t seen since high school. Both were talking about their visits to therapists. What in teenage years were personality quirks have now blossomed into psychological difficulties that just keep getting harder to bear. I just sat there thinking how needless their pain is. So many people who could be leading happy, productive lives if not for problems which are now accepted as normal and medicated.
September 10, 2012 at 1:31 pm
Yeah, seeing old friends can be pretty sad. They shouldn’t be aging so much by their thirties. Shouldn’t be on meds, shouldn’t be a slave to the system, visiting doctors and psychiatrists. We should still be enjoying life with gusto. Many people, of course, still are but so many go down hill way to early. Oh well.
September 8, 2012 at 7:38 pm
Hi Peggy,
I read your article about FM and I was wondering how long it was before you saw signs of Evelyn’s bloating going away, and also how long it was before the bloating was completely gone. Thanks
September 9, 2012 at 8:21 am
Hi Cynthia, I’d like to give you some input. I seem to have FM problems, and I find that after I have “indulged” that it usually takes three days for me to even out and my regularity to return. That’s if I only make poor choices on one day, then I start to have the bloating and general blah-ness. If I make poor choices for several days, then I start to get constipated (or at least I am not passing as much as I am eating) and it may take about five days of really careful eating to clear the backlog and feel svelte and energetic again. I personally find that, although many veggies don’t agree with me, lettuce is my friend, and things move along best when I eat two salads a day. Obviously finding the friendly veggies requires personal experimentation. Good luck!
September 10, 2012 at 1:20 pm
Hi Cynthia, if Evelyn eats fructose or fructans for a few days the bloating comes back and it can take several days before she’s back to normal again. I believe it was the same in beginning. For me too. As soon as we figured it out and the fermentable carbs stopped making their way down to the colon, there was no more bloating.
However, you will also want to be careful about inflammatory foods. Having a lot of inflammation in the system can contribute to bloating.
September 9, 2012 at 1:01 am
Hi Peggy!
I know everybody has told you this already, but I needed to say it my own: you are amazing. You gave me hope when everything seemed lost, and that’s unvaluable. I’m the spanish girl with the PCOS-acne problem, and I’m glad to tell I’m waaaayy much better!
I think people’s rejection to the idea that food may be the culprit of their problems is inversely proportional to their perceived ability to really change the way they eat (I don’t know if I made a good translation, I hope you understand).
Keep it up! You are great!
Bigs hugs and congrats on your little beautiful Maya! I bet she will be as awesome as Evelyn is and will close all those people’s mouths.
September 10, 2012 at 1:18 pm
Marina, thank you and I am so glad to hear you’re doing well! Be well and stay in touch.
September 9, 2012 at 8:09 am
I don’t get why these people are flat out angry the way they are. Could it be their diet? Hmmm…..
I’ve gained a lot from your blog. I think the only things that have ever turned me off is that you appear to believe that the paleo diet is the cure-all for common issues with children. This isn’t fact, and my children are total proof of this. I experienced hellish “terrible twos” with my oldest, even though he has never had grain, dairy, soy, legumes, or sugar. We tried just about everything with that child. In the end, he was just very spirited and independent, and a typical two year old.
I think that annoys me because it is misleading and is a very big assumption based off your one experience with your one child (at the time). Also, you have no basis of comparison with pregnancies. How do you know that you personally just don’t have some pregnancy symptoms or weight gain or easy recovery – regardless of diet? I mean, my fast food eating friend recovered from her c-section very quickly and without meds also (I was so jealous). You have no way to prove it was the diet, so that’s a big claim to make. That’s all fine and dandy, I just feel it’s misleading the way it’s presented and that others might take this advice, find out it doesn’t work for curing their kid’s tantrums (or whatever) and then abandon the diet. Hopefully, that doesn’t really happen, and hopefully the book you’re planning on putting out is actually based on more than just your experience, if it is to be presented in a way other than just telling your personal story.
On the other hand, you talk about topics that seems to not be covered anywhere else I read. Good, interesting, valuable stuff!
Here’s a better way to handle these things: take it or leave it. These jerks getting on a forum and saying straight up hateful things is just pathetic. I’ve gotten lots of useful things off your blog, and seen things I don’t agree with. Big deal. It’s the internet. Brush it off and realize that it takes a real loser to post in some forum hateful crap about a total stranger.
September 10, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Hey Kara, I’m glad you enjoy some aspects of my blog, and even that you question others. Question what other people say is what intelligent people do all the time.
There is no proof (in the Western sense) that diet helps ease our children’s pain and calm their attitudes. And there is no proof that diet can prevent illness, depression, pregnancy discomforts, etc. But my claims are based on way more than just my own experience with my own child. It would be insane and totally illogical to say that I ate some food and this happened to my kid, it must be the food. Well, of course, it could be any number of things. It could have to do with diet and/or any number of other things.
I do not base everything I say on my own experience. Sure my own experience is useful for asking questions and for coming up with hypotheses but it is not the basis for what I believe. It is the extensive reading which I have done over the years that has opened my eyes to all of this to begin with. I read, I watch, and listen.
Of course there will be spirited children who are feistier than others. Good thing too. We need those personalities in the world. But there are so many behaviors which can be avoided by calming children with the right nutrients, the elimination of excitotoxins, food colorings, HFCS, etc. This stuff matters! And I am going to spread the word about it, even though I haven’t had a handful of children with all kinds of different personalities (my mom has by the way and she makes it very clear how different all the personalities of her five children were). I’m not sitting in a little closed box with no information about other kids and parents and other cultures whose experiences differ greatly from our own.
September 10, 2012 at 12:11 pm
That sounds great and maybe in the future I will do that. However, for now I am too busy with classes to focus on a blog. I’m sure you remember what it was like.
September 11, 2012 at 6:40 pm
I think you fucking rock! “What others think of me is none of my business.” A healthy happy fertile hottie might be too much for some insecure people to handle. Now you can be thankful you’re not them. Now please get back to posting the cool shit in your life for all of us that didn’t know or care about the haters.
September 13, 2012 at 11:43 am
What the heck kind of forum is that??? Some people just enjoy spewing venom out all day. I don’t get it. How miserable must their lives be?
Anyone who’s a regular here knows you are a real person with real feelings. You are one of the few bloggers that’s taken the time to comment on my little barely-known blog. You took time to help me with my son’s diet through email. You’re very open-minded. You acknowledge that people can be healthy on different diets. You don’t claim to know everything. But you share your experience and research. You stand up for what you believe in.
I think you’re pretty cool.
September 18, 2012 at 9:50 am
Peggy! You rock, The sad problem in the paleo community as that the SECOND someone states something that is true (i.e., coconut flour will not help you lose weight) they immediately vilified as ‘judgmental’- case in point, paleo parents’ article the other day. Keep doing what you do. I would far rather read about the best way to do paleo and be secure enough to admit that I don’t always do it perfectly than redefine it so I can lie to myself to make myself feel better.
And I am not a ‘fat hater’, I am an overweight person who is imperfect but secure enough to accept the truth as well as the fact that I don’t always adhere to it perfectly.
September 18, 2012 at 9:52 am
PS- My comment was linked in the paleo parents’ article as being ‘idiotic’- I had simply said they sound more grain free. Apparently in their wonderful high road anyone who politely disagrees is an idiot and a fat hater. Ironic. Keep doing what you do, Peggy. At least you’re not a hypocrite.
September 18, 2012 at 9:18 pm
Thanks Christina. I didn’t read their article. I just don’t feel like being involved in drama again this week! But yeah, I was never judging anybody.