
The diet to suggest that: Increased Maternal Fat Consumption During Pregnancy Alters Body Composition in Neonatal Mice
Let me tell you why I liked math so much. I know you might be wondering. By looking at me you wouldn’t think that I’d sit through years of pure math classes. I’m a musician, a snowboarder – I’m kind of the cool type – so, a math degree, really?
I’ve always liked science but it also kind of bugs me. At first I was planning on studying biology but it seemed like I was always calling bullshit on the researchers. You have to take math classes as a science major, and I found myself taking solace in the certainty of mathematical conclusions.
Wikipedia defines the scientific method thusly: “To be termed scientific, a method of inquiry must be based on gathering empirical and measurable evidence subject to specific principles of reasoning.”
And when the empirical and measurable evidence gathered is irrelevant, inconsistent, biased, or even fabricated – what is it then?
In mathematics, nothing is fabricated. Each peer reviewed paper is reproved by each and every mathematician who reads it. Scientific research is done inside of a box and the paper is as fallible as the scientist who writes it up.
Science Sucks
Physiology is vast, and our affect on it even vaster. We all know quite clearly that eating 50 nuts as compared to 20 affects our mood, digestion, water retention, eventual cellular fat composition, etc. differently. We can report similarly about other variables. What about the effects of eating fructose instead of sucrose? And the difference between the metabolism of pure fructose as opposed to fresh juice? And the difference between saturated fats and omega-6s?
Scientists deemed caloric restriction harmful, but take a closer look at the research as I did in this article and you’ll find that the subjects ate a high carbohydrate diet of processed foods. Hmm, I wonder what results they’d see if they ate real food.
Take a look at the research of zero crab diets and their affect on the thyroid and you’ll find out that the dietary formulas are total nonsense.
“The long-term study of fat overfeeding included four subjects studied before and after overeating fat for 3 mo. The excess fat in these diets averaged 895 kcal/d consisting of margarine, corn oil, a corn oil colloidal suspension, and fat enriched soups and cookies. The ratio of saturated to unsaturated fatty acids in these diets was 1:2.5.”
I could go on ad infinitum.
I am writing today because I’m pissed off at science, the dumb scientists who somehow make it out with PhDs and white lab coats, and the reporters who report their crappy results.
Feeding Mice Out of a Dropper Bottle
There are literally infinite ways to test the affects of low carb diets on mice. If you get any of those tiny variables wrong, you’ll end up reporting that their thyroid is low. Now the scientist publishes his paper on the link between low carb diets and low thyroid, while all along it was actually the high cysteine present in the isolated muscle meat that they were using for the rat’s high protein diet. Maybe if they would have fed the mice a traditional preparation of bone (gelatin) soup, their mice’s thyroid wouldn’t have suffered. Or better yet, the mice could have eaten the low carb version of their own traditional diet.
Reminiscing About Math Again
Math on the other hand uses specific mathematical axioms and previously proven conclusions to derive proofs. If a mathematician ever gets his methods wrong while solving a problem, the conclusion will remain elusive forevermore. That’s the way math works. You cannot bullshit your way to a mathematical conculsion.
The human body and nutrition don’t work this way. If there is a set of axioms available for human nutrition, we haven’t yet discovered it, or eh hem, maybe we have and it’s called Paleo, but that is NOT what scientists are using as axioms.
Scientific Research Diets
This morning, I ran into an article on Science Daily, which is a website that reports on research findings without a care in the world about the validity of the study. They reproduce anything and everything in a supportive way, some call that unbiased.
Moms Who Eat High-Fat Diet Before, During Pregnancy, ‘Program’ Babies to Be Fat, at Risk, Mouse Study Shows
When I saw the title of this article I immediately wondered what the methods were, which are never reported in the news. The readers of these news articles are supposed to (and do) take this stuff as absolute because scientists told us so. Not only are the methods not reported but the papers are generally unavailable to the public.
Why does this piss me off so badly? Because people’s quality of life is at stake here! Because growing children, pregnant women, and babies are never going to get the nutrition they need as long as there are headlines like this in Science Daily!
So I bought the original paper for $20 from the American Journal of Physiology, Endocrinology and Metabolism. The original paper is titled:
Increased Maternal Fat Consumption During Pregnancy Alters Body Composition in Neonatal Mice
The low carb diet in this study consists of 60% fat, 20% protein, and 20% carbohydrates and is pathetically fake. The low carb diet used in this study can be found in detail here (in the picture above). Tell me if you think this is something that would promote the health of a fetus!
This diet is a preparation made by Research Diets and this is what our trusting scientists use to draw conclusions about our health.
I am so disgusted with science right now, probably because I paid $20 for a study that is so utterly worthless.
Other studies on similar findings in humans are often cited. Here is the abstract of one that I’m not going to bother buying.
Maternal over-nutrition and offspring obesity predisposition: targets for preventative interventions
“Obesity now represents one of the major health care issues of the 21st century. Its prevalence has increased exponentially in both the developed and developing world during the last couple of decades. Such a rapid rise can therefore not be explained by a change in genotype, but must result from environmental factors and their interaction with our genes. There is clear evidence to show that current environmental factors such as current diet and level of physical activity can influence our risk of obesity. However, there is growing evidence to suggest that factors acting during very early life can influence long-term energy balance. One such factor that is emerging as an important player is maternal obesity and/or over-nutrition during pregnancy and lactation. Early life may therefore represent a critical period during which intervention strategies could be developed to reduce the prevalence of obesity.”
Millions of Years of Tradition
Millions of years of tradition is proof beyond a reasonable doubt. What more do we really need? Who told us that science is the answer anyway and why do we believe it?
The only way to make any sense of diet and nutrition is to listen to tradition, and not to science. Millions of years of eating the foods that have always been available on this planet has done us very well. The advice of scientists has not.
September 17, 2011 at 9:34 pm
Isn’t it frustrating?! I’m currently in school for massage and I have to take a class on anatomy … My teacher does understand that eating fat is important but tried to tell is that taking an omega 3 supplement it healthier than eating a slab of fresh salmon, and I was like “that make sense how?!” but at the same time, science, like you said in your last article, gives us something to evaluate our own self experimentation …
I was never good at math, so I’m maybe a little biased against it.
September 17, 2011 at 9:36 pm
Well, it seems you are really upset. after looking into those studies I too would be upset by the obvious biased science going on. However, with as many problems that scientific thinking has, the best part is that it is a conversation continuium. Science is not happy with answers like “ice floats because it is magic” and I can bet that fellow researchers are blasting away at this study just like you did pointing out the obvious holes in it. Mathematics is in my opinion, a language that helps us communicate out most abstract thoughts. And before you say math cannot be “fudged” plenty of great theoretical physicists do this all the time ( including Enstein when he was developing the theory of general relativity). So since math is a language and science is a way of thinking, I think what you really have a problem with is people who try to push an agenda to suit their or who ever is paying their bills means of making money and our power. It is no coincidence that the presidents fitness and health advisors advocate a vegan diet when our countries power base is dependent on agriculture, and oil (ie: chemical fertilizer).
So while we may never get rid of people trying to use the umbrella of both science and math (hello wallstreet!) for their own ends, what we need to do is not blame the tools they use bu the people who use them and at the same time educate the masses to be skeptical about all the bullshit they see on TV or read.
If a hunter gatherer was attacked by another yielding a spear, he wouldnt bad mouth the spear, he would pick up his own and defend his landbase.
September 18, 2011 at 9:57 am
Well, Tyler, Physics is science actually, not math. Physics uses math. Math really is absolute and cannot easily be “fudged”. When a paper is reviewed, the mistake will be caught.
I definitely do have a problem with people who push an agenda but I also have a problem with the science of nutrition. First of all, the field uses bad methods and that is not something I have the power to change. Second, by the very nature of the complexity of the human body and the fallibility of humans we’re not going to get this stuff right all the time. There are too many variables. I absolutely don’t believe that science will fix us, no matter how good our methods might be.
September 18, 2011 at 12:04 am
I have an electrical engineering degree. I love math. If two people get two different answers for the same problem one of them has to be wrong. But this science seems like quantum physics. The answers are determined by how you observe the problem.
I hate money, people only do this stuff for money. If we all ate traditional diets who would profit? All the marketers and companies of processed foods would be out of business and everyone would be out a job.
But tjen again thatd be cool, everyone would have to learn to be farmers again.
September 18, 2011 at 3:06 am
I find the term “over-nutrition” really disturbing on a few levels. Mainly, it’s the notion that if you’re obese, you’ve had “too much” nutrition – WTF? My personal pet theory, from reading a lot and piecing stuff together in a wholly un-scientific manner, is that a large part of what causes obesity is *mal-nutrition*. Not in the sense of one specific vitamin or mineral that’s deficient – though that can play a part – and not in the sense of calorie-deprivation, but in the sense that no matter how many calories we consume, we’re still starving for what our body really needs, which is real food. Fake and processed foods often have plenty of calories but are either nutritionally bereft or incomplete – think trans fats, messed up fatty-acid ratios, incomplete sources of protein, unnaturally high amounts of carbohydrate, and certain vitamins and minerals cancelling each other out because they’re included in unnatural combinations, with the nutrient-binding properties of processed grains to add insult to injury. You can get plenty of calories that way, but nowhere near enough nutrition.
It’s like feeding cats kibble: it has essential nutrients, but it’s not real food, so cats will eat more and more of it just to try to extract what little nutrition it has. The cats either don’t know any better, or don’t have access to anything else, and they develop health problems and often become obese, just like us. Just like rats and mice do in these “studies.”
September 18, 2011 at 9:18 am
I completely agree with Aiyesha! I have been thinking for a long time now that someone who has anorexia is dealing with the same problem as someone who is obese. They are both malnourished and starving for nutrients. What can we gather from studies that isolate things like fructose(HFCS),protien(Casein)and fats(PUFA)? These studies just confuse people more and we start to think anything is bad for us. We now start to question if even fruits and vegetables are good for us. They have basically demonized everything so what should we do? Become Breatharians? We couldn’t even do that due to all the pollution!
I, like so many others, would like to see the studies done on whole fruits and veggies(fructose) and proper protiens and fats in their whole natural form. Then maybe I would be more apt to listen. Why are there so many other cultures that eat plenty of all of the above food and are extremely healthy?
September 19, 2011 at 12:16 pm
I agree with you 100%. As someone who is currently in the process of losing weight through a Paleo approach, I know that even though I was carrying around “extra” pounds, I was starving for what my body really needed. I really never got full or satisfied eating the SAD. I just kept eating, futilely trying to get what I needed. Now, I don’t get the same crazy cravings or feel the need to eat every couple hours to keep myself from becoming cranky and irritable. I can’t tell you what a relief it is to not stress about food!
September 18, 2011 at 3:37 am
It doesn’t always work, but my article about getting scientific papers for free can save some bucks.
Failing that, if you send out a tweet indicating your need for a particular paper with a link to it, you may find that it magically appears in your inbox. Apparently there are a lot of paleo nerds with access through their universities.
September 18, 2011 at 9:15 am
That is so helpful, Andrew. Thanks for passing that on!
September 18, 2011 at 3:50 am
this is why I get so frustrated that I cant talk about nutrition with the people around me. They read these ‘studies’ and ‘facts’ without doing any research and I just dont have the patience to sit and argue. I happily send links, papers, book recs… But few bother to follow up. I try to explain the science behind our lifestyle but I lose most people within the first 5 minutes because they have limited understanding of anatomy and physiology and what Im saying goes so strongly against the CW they stake their lives on.
I really just want to live in a like-minded community. This is getting so out of hand that I feel there should be a ‘Paleo’ box next to the other options on forms that ask ethnicity and religion… Society makes it so that we require special provisions. I’d be able to find halal meat or a kosher restaurant far far easier than I would a supplier of grass fed organs or a ‘safe’ place to eat out. We are THAT different from whats ‘normal’ now. And its sad and frustrating.
September 18, 2011 at 9:41 am
Good point Heather. We are THAT different.
September 18, 2011 at 11:53 am
One of the reasons I’ve become so taken with the primal/paelo community is because I’m getting advice and information from people who live the lifestyle themselves and show the results. When do see this in the scientific community? These “studies” are typically short lived and don’t really meed the criteria we’d set for low carb diets. They seem to be done with a particular result in mind and skewed to procure those results. I’ve come to the point where I trust my own body than any study put out by the so-called experts.
September 19, 2011 at 11:36 am
At some point it’s best to stop listening to nutritional science all together. Our own bodies speak so loudly, if we just learn to understand what they’re saying. The longer I do this the more I believe that we don’t need science to fix us.
September 19, 2011 at 11:08 am
Well done, Peggy. It’s all very troubling. So many people I talk to (many of them highly educated) have such great misunderstandings when it comes to nutrition. I think it’s mainly because of the ubiquity of conventional wisdom, much of it perpetuated, as you point out, by studies and those who conduct them, who basically suck at what they do.
A couple of examples of what some of my very intelligent, ivy-educated friends have said lately:
“I’d really like to have some bacon, but it’s so bad for you.”
“What, you don’t eat grain? Then how do you get any carbs?”
Another great example: A grocery market in NYC, something of an institution here, has a sign up quoting some famous chef saying something like: “Olive oil infuses food with flavor better than any vegetable oil, however healthy.”
Huh?
Such massive confusion. There’s a big need in this world for blogs like yours, so it’s good you’re writing it. Keep it up, OK?
Susan
September 19, 2011 at 11:31 am
Thanks, Susan. I needed to hear that. Blogging is a lot of work. It is important to get the message out from as many angles as possible that what we’ve been doing in this country for the last 50 years isn’t working.
September 19, 2011 at 11:58 am
The problem is not the science, but the scientists. As long as their methods are legit, then legitimate results can be produced. But it’s the conclusions of papers that need to be read with caution. For example, The China Study concluded that animal protein is bad for you, when in fact all they could really say was that isolated casein protein may promote tumor growth in mice. Any more than that is extrapolations and haunches, not science.
September 19, 2011 at 2:11 pm
It’s disgustingly frustrating. First of all, we’re not rats!!! There may be similarities, but we are NOT rodents. Second, yeah, feed humans real food and then do a study…then I’ll be convinced.
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September 24, 2011 at 3:55 pm
I hate nutritionism and I don’t trust conclusions made from “scientific” studies (because even if the study was done somewhat okay, the conclusion is going to be biased anyway). Even the studies that support my point of view I still take with a grain of salt. These days it’s just easier for me to put my faith in time-tested tradition.
October 9, 2011 at 6:40 pm
One reason why I am a college drop out… it’s all bull shit.